Saturday, August 29, 2015

Paul vs. Jesus: A List of Contradictory and Incompatible Statements



Source: http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.html



PAUL vs. JESUS
 A List of Contradictory and Incompatible Statements


By Edgar Jones


Preface

The following statements from Paul's letters are symptomatic of deep differences between the doctrines of Paul and Jesus -- much as a fever is symptomatic of an infection in the body.  You can read a discussion of their differences in Paul: the Strangermy book that exposes Paul as a liar and a false prophet who did not know Jesus.  The most significant difference is in their salvation doctrines as derived from their interpretations of the crucifixion.  In these fundamental areas, Paul's errors and false gospel are obvious to anyone who follows Jesus as teacher and listens carefully to Jesus' words.  Very seldom does anyone in Christendom so listen to Jesus as to receive his Word of Truth, even though the gospels repeatedly quote his Word.  The reason?  The churchmen get to everyone first with false Pauline doctrine, which then stands between them and Jesus, blocking the Light.  His words come through but not his message.  My hope is that this list will motivate you to remove the blindfold and see the Good Shepherd as he is.  Your eternal salvation depends on it!  So, do not listen to me or anyone other than Jesus if you would receive eternal life.  Here is the key, from his pure lips:


John.5
[24Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

This list is surely not complete, for it is very easy to overlook Paul's contradictory and/or incompatible statements. Therefore, I offer it as a beginning and invite all who see omissions to bring them to my attention via email.

On January 21, 2006, Contradiction No. 10 that was placed in error was replaced by another of Paul's many contradictions, this on dying.  A Christian who has critiqued this page and disputed every one of the listed contradictions took the time to compose a detailed refutation of each of the twenty-five on the list.  You can find my response http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.html.  I am indebted to him for disclosing to us that the prior No. 10 was erroneous.  

1. On the time of the coming of the Lord:

Paul says:

Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.
Jesus says:
Luke.21
 [8Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is
 at hand!' Do not go after them.
2. On the source of the Truth and the true gospel:

Paul says:
1Cor.2
[13] And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit.Gal.1
[12] For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ. 


Jesus says:

John.17
[14I have given them thy word;
[17Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth.
3. On the God of the dead:

Paul says:


Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.


Jesus says:

Luke.20
[38Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;

4. On the sum of the commandments:

Paul says:
Rom.13
[9] The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.


Jesus says:
Matt.22
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. 
[38] This is the great and first commandment. 
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.

5. On whom God has mercy:

Paul says:
Rom.9
[15] For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 
[16] So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy
[18] So then he has mercy upon whomever he wills, and he hardens the heart of whomever he wills.

Jesus says:

Matt.5
[7Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

6. On forgiveness of trespasses:

Paul says:
Eph.1
[7] In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his graceRom.4
[25] who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for our justification. 

Jesus says:

Matt.6
[14For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you
[15but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


7. On being justified:

Paul says:

Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 

Jesus says:

Matt.12
[37for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

8. On the cost of eternal life:

Paul says:

Rom.6
[23] For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Jesus says:


Matt.19
[29And every one who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name's sake, will receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life.Luke.14
[28] For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?[33So therefore, whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.

9. On what is honorable among men:


Paul says:



[21] for we aim at what is honorable not only in the Lord's sight but also in the sight of men.Rom.12
[17] Repay no one evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all men.Rom.14
[
18] he who thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.1Cor.10
[33] just as I try to please all men in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved. 

Jesus says:
Luke.16
[15] But he said to them, You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is exaltedamong men is an abomination in the sight of God.Luke.6
[26Woe to you, when all men speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.

10. On Dying:


Paul says:

31: I protest, brethren, by my pride in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die every day!


Jesus says:
John 11
26: and whoever lives and believes in me shall never die.


11. On the basis of judgment:

Paul says:

Rom.2

[12] All who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 

Jesus says:
John.12
[48] He who rejects me and does not receive my sayings has a judge; the word that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.
12. On the commandments and eternal life:                     

Paul says:
Rom.7
[9] I was once alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died;
[10] the very commandment which promised life proved to be death to me.

Jesus says:
Matt.19
[17] And he said to him, Why do you ask me about what is good? One there is who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.


13. On your father:


Paul says:
1Cor.4
[15] For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel. 
Phlm.1
[10] I appeal to you for my child, Ones'imus, whose father I have become in my imprisonment. 


Jesus says:

[9And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.


14. On qualifying for eternal life:

Paul says:
Rom.5
[21] so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 

Jesus says:

John.5
[24Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
 
15. On the destiny of the creation (heavens and earth):

Paul says:
Rom.8
[21] because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Jesus says:
Matt.24
[35] Heaven and earth will pass away,


16. On the destiny of the Law and the Prophets:

Paul says:
Rom.10
[4] For Christ is the end of the law, that every one who has faith may be justified.

Jesus says:
Matt.5
[17Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. 
[18] For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.


17. On the number and identity of teachers:

Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,
Jesus says:

Matt.23
[8But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.

18. On the number to be saved:

Paul says:
Rom.11
[25] Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, 
[26] and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written, "The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob.


Jesus says:
Matt.7
[13Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 
[14For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.


19. On the number and identity of pastors (shepherds):

Paul says:
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors (shepherds) and teachers, 

Jesus says:

John.10
[16And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd.


20. On the number and identity of leaders:

Paul says:
1Cor.4
[15] For though you have countless leaders in Christ . . ..

Jesus says:

Matt.23
[10] Neither be called leaders, for you have one leader, the Christ.

21: On total depravity:

Paul says:
Rom.3
[9] What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all; for I have already charged that all men, both Jews and Greeks, are under the power of sin,
[10] as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;
[22] For there is no distinction;
[23] since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, . . ..

Jesus says:

Matt.12
[35The good man out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. 
Luke.6
[45The good man out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil man out of his evil treasure produces evil; for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

Matt.23
[35that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari'ah the son of Barachi'ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.


22. On unconditional election:


Paul says:
Rom.9
[16] So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy.

Jesus says:

Matt.7
[21Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 
[22On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?[23And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.


23. On sacrifices to God:

Paul says:
1Cor.5
[7] For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed.Eph.5
[2] And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God. 

Jesus says:

Matt.9
[13Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.'
24. On remuneration for preaching the gospel:

Paul says:
1Tim.5
[17] Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching;
[18] for the scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages.
1Cor.9
[11] If we have sown spiritual good among you, is it too much if we reap your material benefits?
[12] If others share this rightful claim upon you, do not we still more? 

Jesus says:

Matt.10
[7And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' 
[8] Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.


25. On how one becomes a child of God:

Paul says:
Rom.8
[23] and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait foradoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 
Gal.4
[5] to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. 

Jesus says:

John.3
[3Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is begotten from above,* he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[6That which is begotten of the flesh is flesh, and that which is begotten of the Spirit is spirit. 
[7Do not marvel that I said to you, `You must be begotten from above.*

John 3:3 and 3:7 are the author's translations.  These differ from the RSV only in the expression "begotten from above" that replaces "born anew' in the RSV.  "Born anew" does not represent the fullness of what Jesus is stating here, and does not correspond to the literatal translation of the Greek, anothen (a()nwqen).





3 comments:

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